. >> i don't remember if you remember the stockton, he brought ted nugent to the -- >> yeah. >> krystal, he tweeted out, the best thing about the earth is if you put holes in it, oil and gas come out. how is that for kinder and gentler? he actually tweeted this. >> and that's part of the problem. if you have any concern about the environment, if if you have any concern about climate change, are you going to look to someone that's a party that's saying things like that? that's not offering any solutions and i think that's part of the problem. cap and trade, which has been thoroughly demonized, that was a conservative idea. that's a market-based approach to dealing with climate change. democrats have adopted some of these goods, market-based things that they used to do. if they are going to be an effective party and opposition, they have to offer nuance responses. it's worked for them a while but now that well has run dry, so to speak. >> and i think joan made a very good point. usually they take an autopsy after you've been pronounced dead. they don't usually take 5 autopsies while you'r